Curse

stiffler · Sep 12, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Godzilla vs Gundams!

Your avy -_-'

Superdarth · Sep 12, 2007, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by stiffler

So whats the history of the Dragon Festival in Cantha then? Why is it a "Dragon" festival?

The whole Canthan empire is realy called The Empire of the Dragon, so it could just be referring to their nation, though perhaps they have had some history with dragons, given the empires name.

On the other hand it could just be ment to symbolize the great traits of a dragon.

By the way: Holy shi that dragon back is HUGE. I pity my children.

Giga Strike · Sep 12, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

I think longasc is on to something.

i hope, for all our sakes, that the dragons dont know dragon blast...

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 12, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Some hints regarding "Dragons" in GW2:

1. Phinney or Strain gave an example of a "Dragon destroying a bridge" that you can repair or fight the dragon before in the GW2 preview in PC Gamer.

2. The red stone dragon awaking at the end of GW:EN

3. Glint's Challenge with the Baby Dragon you have to save from the Destroyer

I would like to point out that the Prophecies storyline was basically one of misread Prophecies. After all, it was our heroes that helped the Lich in the end! Because they did not know better.

I tell you, the destroyers are nice guys that want to save us from the dragon menace that we help to hatch by protecting this baby dragon in the Challenge Mission. Or maybe there will be good dragons and bad dragons, who knows.

As GW's storyline is always awfully "inspired" by pop culture, I can imagine a world threatend by dragons like in "Reign of Fire". Dragons and/or Destroyers would be the common enemy of the 5 different factions that wage war against each other as well.

That is a very cute theory... but obviously clearly incorrect for the following two (resounding) reasons:

1. First and foremost, Destroyers attacked everything, not just dragons (such as baby Glint). In fact the first quest to start EOTN regardless of your starting continent is to keep the destroyers from attacking the surface (see 'What Lies Beneath' - Tyria, 'I Feel the Earth Move Under Cantha's Feet' - Cantha, and 'Hole of Istan' - Elona). Also the reason that we see the rats, ooze, and the entire Asuran race is because the Destroyers destroyed their home and pushed them onto the surface.

2. Secondly, if Destroyers are good and Dragons are bad... then why the hell wouldn't the destroyers turn around and kick the crap out of the dragon that is right behind them?!

Which leads me to my conclusion and back the OP. Lets look at your "reasons" why you believe that dragons are all bad (lol) and add a little bit of intellect, some general knowledge about Guild Wars lore, and last but certainly not least logic.

I believe that GW2 will be basically a war between good dragons and bad dragons. Here are some logical reasons that I believe this to be true.

1. Destroyer dragon (at the end of EOTN) is bad, hence the destroyers.
2. Drakkar dragon (dragon in drakkar lake) is bad, hence Jora's brother.
3. Charr dragon (the back is in charr land) is bad, Charr are evil (this one is an assumption but not known).
4. Glint is good (protector of Tyria and revered by the Forgotten who are clearly good, helps defeat Titans which are evil).
5. Kuunavang is good (Helped defeat Shiro and is corruptable so in natural state must be inherently good).
6. Baby Glint (see Glints Challenge) is good as the destroyers (evil) try to kill it and it is the child of Glint.

So we already have a dichotomy of good and evil dragons well established and we know that EOTN is supposed to bridge the gap between GW1 and GW2, so it is safe to assume that GW2 will probably be about (or at least contain) a fight between the aforementioned good dragons and their counterpart the evil dragons.

natuxatu · Sep 12, 2007, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

I think longasc is on to something.

i hope, for all our sakes, that the dragons dont know dragon blast...

Don't give A.net any ideas >.>

Giga Strike · Sep 12, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00

not sure about the charr dragon. if the skeletal back thing was, at one time, a dragon, then it's pretty dead now. i think that theres a better chance of it being a monument created by th charr. then again it's in the middle of a lake so theres no way for us to get close enough to really see much in detail.

also, the charr aren't really evil. they just follow the shaman caste which wants to control everything. this will most likely change by GW2 when charr are playable.

regarding the dragon behind the destroyers: i don't think that it's the great destroyer. I think the great destroyer had captured it and was keeping it dormant while sapping it's magical energy to allow them to cause the earthquakes that created the fissures that allowed them to escape. not sure how they got the dragon in the frist place though, maybe menzies helped.

Giga Strike · Sep 12, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10

it must be an earth dragon!

1: the dragon must have been underground in the first place for the destroyers (who where trapped underground) to reach it.

2: if they used it to cause earthquakes then it must have some control over the earth element.

3: it looks pretty rocky.

would there be a dragon of each element in GW2? the drakkar dragon would probably be a water dragon, though i haven't seen it for myself...

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 12, 2007, 04:15 PM // 16:15

Giga... With regards to the Charr not being inherently evil i agree (cant really be argued via Pyre Fierceshot) but the Shaman Caste could have been corrupted by the dragon (much like Joras brother).

With regards to the dragon behind the great destroyer... I never said that that dragon was the great destroyer. In fact I think that we probably already defeated the great destroyer (at least it was labled the great destroyer, even if it was kinda lame). The dragon was in the central transfer chamber before the great destroyer was (Vekk stated this already) but based on his disposition, the fact that the great destroyer decided to set up camp near him (probably to draw power like you said), and the fact that the cutscene hints at him/it being evil it is fairly safe to assume.... THAT THE DRAGON IS EVIL.

Good points though at least your thoughts were articulated much more than the guy who thought destroyers were our super good care bear friends. lol.

Giga Strike · Sep 12, 2007, 04:30 PM // 16:30

im not saying that u though it was the great destroyer, im just saying what i think. other ppl think that its the great destroyer.

i dont remember vekk saying anything about the dragon...was it during a cutscene?

ReiNaruto · Sep 12, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

The thing hidden on charr territories is a dragon, just take a look at the pack of fan things that anet has in their web for EotN.

The image of that thing was called *dragon*.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 12, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20

ReiNaruto... if your going to post read unless its more than say 8 pages.... we know its a damn dragon.... reread my large post.

Giga Strike · Sep 12, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

she probably read my post where i said that i think its more likley a monument and was giveing eveidence against that.

R!ghteous Ind!gnation · Sep 12, 2007, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Point taken..... its still evil while glint is good :-P

oceanicdemigod · Sep 12, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

What I don't understand is how Glint can have baby dragons when we (assuming we did the Bonus in Dragon's Lair) should have killed off all her eggs by now? hehe

ChrisCo · Sep 12, 2007, 08:02 PM // 20:02

i have no idea what there planing for gw2. But what i can say that in some of the dungeons there are those library like rooms with all the scrolls and the paintings of dragons and other stuff that we have never seen in guild wars.

I cant wait for gw2 gonna have the little asura fighting a giant dragon ... might need mending -_-

dsnesnintendo · Sep 12, 2007, 08:16 PM // 20:16

My theory: the part in the ice, charr homeland, and endgame are all from the same dragon
ONE HUGH M***** F****** D***...dragon with like ywo heads(1 in ice and 1 in fire) the part in the charr territory is its spine

Croco Clouds · Sep 12, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Godzilla vs Gundams!

Perhaps they gonna add Gundam/MS Armor?

JeniM · Sep 12, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Info : The creature in Drakkar Lake will be thawd for GW2
That isn't a whild theory a Dev said it in a Dev talk, Lindsey i think(?)

Can't find it now

i'll edit if i do

Omega X · Sep 12, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

Don't forget Kuunivang in Factions...

Yeah, can't forget about Kuunivang. That effin dragon had a lot of dragonkin. I wouldn't be surprised if we ran into 2 or 50 of her children in GW2.

Darlichay Dalinar · Sep 12, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Dwarves die in GW1, GW2 is the age of the dragon...

Bring back the dwarves please; I don't want another game that's going to be "OMFGI PWNED THAT DRAGON AGAIN!"

Really, I don't want to hear it... Enough with the dragon's; they're old hat now.